[mpich-discuss] MPI_Comm_split and end with Finalize
Halim Amer
aamer at anl.gov
Mon Feb 29 16:39:15 CST 2016
MPI_Finalize is collective over a set of connected processes. If the
server hangs in MPI_Finalize, it means that it is still connected to a
subset of the clients. It is difficult to know the reason without a
concrete piece of code. If you send us a minimal example that reproduces
the problem, we might be able to identify the issue.
--Halim
www.mcs.anl.gov/~aamer
On 2/29/16 9:00 AM, K. N. Ramachandran wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I had tried just calling MPI_Comm_disconnect instead of MPI_Comm_split.
>
> I had tried this on just the server side, as well as both on the server
> and client, but I still see the issue of busy-wait at MPI_Finalize on
> the server side. Can anyone give any further inputs on this?
>
> It looks like the server process should be able to terminate early, but
> is held up by the client, even though they should be disconnected from
> each other.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 7:00 PM, K. N. Ramachandran <knram06 at gmail.com
> <mailto:knram06 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Pavan,
>
> Thank you for the reply. I have presented only a very simplified
> case of one server and one client and that is why the problem looks
> strange.
>
> The general case is one server acting as a meeting point and N
> clients join the server and one intra comm is formed among them all.
> Then the server splits off and terminates, leaving the intracomm and
> then letting the clients work amongst themselves now.
>
> I had also tried MPI_Comm_disconnect on the server, after calling
> MPI_Comm_split, but even in that case, the server busy-waits for the
> client at Finalize. The single server and single client was only to
> demonstrate the problem I am facing.
>
> Please let me know if you might need more information. Thanks.
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Balaji, Pavan <balaji at anl.gov
> <mailto:balaji at anl.gov>> wrote:
>
>
> It's unclear what exactly you are trying to do here. Why are
> the clients connecting to the server and then immediately
> "splitting off"?
>
> Your "split-off" functionality needs to be implemented using
> MPI_Comm_disconnect, not using MPI_Comm_split. Comm_split
> divides a communicator into smaller communicators, but all
> processes are still very much connected. So as long as the
> server process is connected to the client processes, it might
> still receive messages from the client process and thus cannot
> simply exit. Comm_disconnect, on the other hand, disconnects
> the client processes from the server processes.
>
> But then again, I have no idea why you are connecting to the
> server and disconnecting immediately.
>
> -- Pavan
>
> > On Feb 26, 2016, at 5:31 PM, K. N. Ramachandran
> <knram06 at gmail.com <mailto:knram06 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have recently begun working on a project that uses
> MPICH-3.2 and I am trying to resolve an issue where a server
> process busy waits at MPI_Finalize.
> >
> > We are trying to create a server process that accepts
> incoming connections from a known number of clients (say, N
> clients), forms a new communicator amongst everyone (server and
> clients) and then splits itself from the group and terminates,
> so that the clients now only work with each other.
> >
> > For very problem specific reasons, we cannot do
> > 'mpiexec -np N (other args)'
> >
> > So we have a server that publishes a service name to a
> nameserver and clients lookup the name to join the server. The
> server and client processes are started with separate calls to
> mpiexec, one to start the server and the rest N calls to start
> the clients.
> >
> > The server process busy-waits at the MPI_Finalize call, after
> it splits from the communicator and only finishes when all other
> clients reach their MPI_Finalize too.
> >
> > Consider a simplified case of only one server and one client.
> The simplified pseudocode is:
> >
> > Server process:
> > MPI_Init();
> > MPI_Open_port(...);
> > MPI_Publish_name(...); //publish service name to nameserver
> >
> > MPI_accept(...); // accept incoming connections and store
> into intercomm
> > MPI_Intercomm_merge(...); // merge new client into intra-comm
> >
> > // now split the server from the client
> > MPI_Comm_rank(intra comm, rank); // rank=0
> > MPI_Comm_split(intra comm, (rank==0), rank, lone comm);
> >
> > MPI_Finalize(); // busy-waits here till client's sleep duration
> >
> > Client process: (simplified - assuming only one client is
> trying to connect)
> > MPI_Init();
> > MPI_Lookup_name(..);
> > MPI_Connect(...)
> >
> > // merge
> > MPI_Intercomm_merge(...); // merge with server
> >
> > // get rank and split
> > MPI_Comm_rank(intra comm, rank); // rank=1
> > MPI_Comm_split(intra comm, rank==0, rank, lone comm);
> >
> > sleep(10); // sleep for 10 seconds - causes server to busy
> wait at MPI_Finalize for sleep duration
> >
> > MPI_Finalize(); // server and client finish here
> >
> > So my questions are:
> >
> > 1) Is busy-wait at MPI_Finalize the expected behaviour?
> >
> > 2) How to truly "disconnect" the server, so that it can end
> immediately at MPI_Finalize()? I had tried MPI_Comm_disconnect
> (also MPI_Comm_free) on both the server and client, but that
> didn't help.
> >
> > 3) We don't want to see the server process consuming one
> core at 100% while it waits at MPI_Finalize. Are other
> alternatives apart from making the server process sleep, wakeup
> and keep polling a client, and then finally call MPI_Finalize?
> >
> > Thank you for any inputs that you can give here.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > K.N.Ramachandran
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