[mpich-discuss] Strange, inconsistent behaviour with MPI_Comm_spawn
alex.rast.technical at gmail.com
Thu Jun 15 10:49:18 CDT 2017
Further progress - which I put down here for the record, in the hope that
it may be useful to others with similar issues as well as in diagnosing and
fixing my own situation.
I can confirm now that MPI_Comm_spawn can be got to work if you have the
same username on all machines as indicated above. It's still far from
trivial; here's what I needed to do. In what is below it is to be
understood that the basic setup is a desktop 'master' machine which runs
mpiexec and sets off the spawn, spawning to 'slave' nodes (which may or may
not be other desktop machines), all running some flavour of Linux (the
exact flavour of which does not need to be identical across machines).
1) Create identical usernames on all machines. This user's directories and
logins will be used for MPI.
2) Configure identical MPICH installations on all machines - in the same
3) Set up sshd on each machine and configure them for key authentication
(RSA recommended). This is done by editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config to have the
value 'PasswordAuthentication no' at the appropriate line.
4) Create ssh keypairs using ssh-keygen on each node for the username above
which you have created. You can use a passphrase if you like.
5) Concatenate the entire set of public keys - id_rsa.pub from the ~/.ssh
directory (or where you put them) on each node into a combined
authorized_keys file. This allows each node to ssh to each other node. Copy
the merged file back to the ~./ssh directory for each node.
6) Make sure the permissions for the ~/.ssh directory and the files id_rsa
and authorized_keys are set allow only the user to access them (chmod u+rwx
<files>, chmod go-rwx <files>. This corresponds to octal permissions field
700. Permissions need to be exactly this or ssh will not authenticate. The
owner of all of these files will need to be the user you created in step 1.
If this is not the case run sudo chown <user>:<user> <file> for each one
having a different owner.
7) If you are running Ubuntu 14.x-16x or other versions which autoload
gnome-keyring, disable it by editing /etc/xdg/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop,
adding the line 'X-GNOME_Autostart-enabled=false'; adding the same line in
~/.config/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop if this file exists; and
(being perhaps a bit paranoid) removing execute permissions from the
executable /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon: chmod ugo-x
./gnome-keyring-daemon. You will need to restart the OS.
8) Configure your /etc/hosts files on each machine to have an entry for
each node - including the local machine itself - with the name you are
going to use in the host field in your MPI_Comm_spawn command(s). It may
also be possible to do this by adding entries to any local DNS servers you
may have, provided each machine is configured to look at the modified DNS
8) Copy your MPI executables to the same working directory - not the MPICH
install directory - on each machine. It may be possible to have different
directories on each machine for the executable but I have not tested this.
9) run eval `ssh-agent` on each machine to start the ssh key agent and then
use ssh-add <path_to_private_keyfile> (probably ~/.ssh/id_rsa) to add the
key to the agent. If you have set a passphrase you will need to enter it at
10) run the application using mpiexec - at which point if all goes well
your MPI_Comm_spawn command should succeed.
So for me the last remaining issue is that of different usernames on each
node - or at least a different username on the 'master' node and the
'slave' nodes. Still no clear answers on how if at all you would do this.
The Hydra documentation suggests adding a hosts file (NOT the same file as
/etc/hosts) with an entry 'hostname user=username' for each host but I
tried that and it didn't work, either inserted as an extra command-line
option to mpiexec or as an additional info argument in MPI_Comm_spawn,
although in neither case did the application crash (at least not any
differently from what it was doing anyway) - it just seems to have ignored
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Alexander Rast <
alex.rast.technical at gmail.com> wrote:
> Still more conjecture on my part, I think I understand what's going on
> with the gethostbyname failed message, but have no idea how one would go
> about fixing it.
> The exact message gives 'gethostbyname failed, pi at Burns (errno 1)'. I
> think this is a case of the underlying implementation not being intelligent
> enough to strip the username off in order to resolve the host address. In
> other words, it's looking for a host named 'pi at Burns' rather than a host
> Burns to which it's going to authenticate as user pi.
> If you try to use the hostname without user this fails, because then it
> tries to authenticate using the current username from the shell that
> invoked mpiexec (in my case on what will eventually become a 'root host'
> machine - an ordinary Ubuntu desktop PC) which fails because on the other
> MPI hosts that username doesn't exist. I have authentication set up using
> RSA keys which authenticates the local user on the 'root host' desktop PC
> into the 'working user' on the remote MPI hosts, but it seems the
> MPI_Comm_spawn function isn't using that authentication path.
> What it looks like, is that the MPICH implementation may be such that in
> order to run MPI_Comm_spawn you have to have an identical username on each
> host you hope to spawn a process on. I very much *hope* this isn't the
> case, because this would be exceptionally awkward, it would mean that for
> each different user wanting to run MPI jobs on the remote cluster they'd
> have to have their own private user and directory on each node in the
> So 1) is it possible to and 2) how would I, configure the MPI_Comm_spawn
> command or associated hosts so that you can authenticate as user X on host
> Y (X at Y) for each spawn host using authorized keys from your user W on
> machine Z, i.e. on machine Y you have in directory
> /home/X/.ssh/authorized_keys an entry for W at Z?
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Alexander Rast <
> alex.rast.technical at gmail.com> wrote:
>> OK, some progress. After more work I determined that the bulk of the
>> truly bizarre inconsistencies was down to obnoxious, intrusive behaviour in
>> Ubuntu of gnome-keyring-daemon, for example see the following post:
>> which by the way has not been fixed as of 16.04 Ubuntu.
>> It seems gnome-keyring-daemon is a particularly badly-behaved utility and
>> doesn't help itself with multiple autoload attempts at Ubuntu startup. You
>> don't know what ssh agent is actually loaded and which RSA keys it has
>> cached. It's also apparently very difficult to get rid of, although there
>> are ways. I got it eventually to stop loading itself. (Perhaps the MPI
>> community might whinge to Ubuntu about this behaviour? Many people have
>> complained about the antisocial behaviour of gnome-keyring-daemon but so
>> far Ubuntu's response has been: 'we can't see why this should be considered
>> a problem. And we have doubts about what you're trying to achieve')
>> So now the problem has got to the point where there are 2 alternative
>> error responses, both occurring at the MPI_Comm_spawn command. I've
>> included typical error outputs for both scenarios, using the code posted
>> earlier. The 2 errors occur with slightly different versions of the
>> configuration file used to spawn the processes, which I'm also including.
>> Obviously _2 files go together.
>> Any thoughts now on what might be causing either of these 2 problems? I
>> find the gethostbyname failed messages particularly perplexing, since I'm
>> able to ssh into the machines themselves without difficulty either by name
>> or IP address.
>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Alexander Rast <
>> alex.rast.technical at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've reached a limit of mystification. Attempting to run an MPI
>>> application using MPI_Comm_spawn from a host is resulting in bizarre,
>>> inconsistent behaviour of ssh and ssh-askpass.
>>> What I did is, I created an RSA keypair using ssh-keygen, copied the
>>> public keys into the ./ssh directories on the machines I'll be running MPI
>>> on, put them in the authorized_keys file, placed all the machines in the
>>> known_hosts file on the launcher host (which is starting MPI_Comm_spawn),
>>> then ran eval ssh-agent and added the id_rsa file to the agent on the
>>> launcher host.
>>> You can verify that this part of the system is working because I can use
>>> ssh directly to access the worker machines that will be running the
>>> But when I actually try to run the MPI application, when it gets to the
>>> spawn, all sorts of wierd and wild stuff happens. Sometimes a dialogue
>>> (which aggressively grabs focus) comes up asking for a password (OpenSSH
>>> Authentication). Other times the same program has just said that the
>>> identity/authenticity of the target machine can't be established - do I
>>> want to continue? (A yes causes authentication to fail). In still other
>>> cases, it appeared to open the connection but then MPI crashed saying it
>>> couldn't get the host by name. (yes, every machine has the hostnames of
>>> every other machine in its hosts file). And in yet another case, it seemed
>>> to try to run but then crashed saying unexpected end-of-file. And so on.
>>> There seems to be no rhyme or reason to the errors, I can't reproduce
>>> anything, each time I try it some new and surprising behaviour comes up.
>>> What's happening? Do I have to do something unusual with machine
>>> Here are the associated MPI files if anyone wants to look for errors. In
>>> fact there are probably some errors in the code itself, because it's never
>>> been able to be debugged (because of this wierd behaviour) but I am fairly
>>> sure at least the sequence through to the spawn command is OK. All help
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